Comments on: Are female engineers still getting the short stick? /are-female-engineers-still-getting-the-short-stick/ Tips, Trends, Resources, News and Information Fri, 05 Jul 2013 12:14:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Old Male Engineer /are-female-engineers-still-getting-the-short-stick/#comment-9657 Fri, 05 Jul 2013 12:14:32 +0000 http://www.pneumatictips.com/?p=2980#comment-9657 I graduated from Georgia Tech in 1970. I am still a working engineer in a major Atlanta company. When I entered GT in the fall of 1966 there were 40 female students in the entire school. I think that made the “ratio” in my day about 0.05 to 1. I was always in awe of their persistence in doing the work in the face of constant comments and harassment by male students. I suspect being a female engineering student back then was many orders of magnitude harder than it is today.

Today, I have the pleasure of working with many young male and female engineers. Our company’s program for training young engineers in the particular’s of our business affords me an opportunity to meet all of our new engineers. Yes, there is still a higher ratio of males to females being hired. I suspect that is because there are still more males graduating with engineering degrees than females. However, I get the feeling that these females are the best engineers we have. I truly believe that our company, and my fellow employees treat all employees, male and female, with equality, and understands the synergies developed by the diversity in the workforce.

My observations after 43 years of working as an engineer –

There will always be differences in the needs of females vs. males. That is something that seems to me to be a given. Once this is recognized by management and co-workers, most issues are easily resolved.

There are also differences in the ways females and males approach problem solving. These differences can lead to a positive solution, especially when they are teamed together and considered in open conversation.

People of integrity, regardless of whether they are male of female, build companies of integrity. The petty conversations from people who lack integrity will disappear.

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By: Alisha Waller /are-female-engineers-still-getting-the-short-stick/#comment-9647 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:33:48 +0000 http://www.pneumatictips.com/?p=2980#comment-9647 As engineers, let us remember that you can’t prove something is true with an example or two. If we pay attention, we can find instances of men treating women badly and of women treating men badly. Let us also remember that situations are complex and no system design is rated highly for every possible criteria. So let’s be more precise about what we mean and engage the issue with more complexity.

The fact is, sexism (defined as differential access to rights, advantages, and responsibilities based on being classified as male or female) is still prevalent in society, institutions, and people. Sexism can be intentional or unintentional. It can be overt or subtle. Society’s sexism hurts men as well as women since they are expected to learn some different things and discouraged from learning others. For example, men are expected to learn not to cry and are not expected to learn to identify subtle emotions. This restricts their abilities to deal with life and to be compassionate leaders. Women are expected to learn to read and respond to people’s emotions and are not encouraged to pursue technical careers. Since these differentials exist in wider society, it is no surprise that they exist in “engineering.”

Research on the experiences of engineering students and professionals shows that microaggressions and microinequalities continue to exist. If you don’t believe they do, please read the research and start with a valid critique of these studies. Let’s use our logical thinking as well as our feelings in engaging this issue.

I don’t believe that one can avoid being sexist in our current society without constant self-examination. A brief review of TV ads and billboards reveals the constant sexism used in marketing for example. The question is not “am I sexist or not?” but ” Where am I blind to my sexism and what can I do to be anti-sexist?” This actually applies to any dimension of discrimination, e.g. race, class, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

The easy work is done, the subtle but harder work yet remains.

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By: Stacy Combest /are-female-engineers-still-getting-the-short-stick/#comment-9347 Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:23:51 +0000 http://www.pneumatictips.com/?p=2980#comment-9347 I don’t know if I should be outraged or sad by what Mark wrote about women. Though I am not an engineer, I work in the industry and I served in the military for 6 years with two deployments under my belt. I know very well what it is like to be the “under dog” or in this case “under sex” of a group. As women working in male dominated fields, we fully understand the scrutiny and lack a respect we will encounter, however we also know that we must and DO work that much harder to earn the respect of our colleagues. With blood, sweat and ZERO tears I moved up the ranks and was promoted to Sergeant, now leading the men who thought of me as “Just another woman”. I did not earn my rank with my smile, chest or legs. I earned my rank with strength, determination and good old fashioned hard work! Mark is the perfect example of why we are still fighting to good fight. We as women could just as easily turn on our male counterparts and blast their ways with negative, derogatory and sexists slurs, however we have more respect than that.

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